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(@gingerjones)
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@heybro 

It's inflammation...I have had doctors and nurses tell me it is inflammation and will resolve in time...some faster than others...


   
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@swift took me about a month. Some mix of panic and real symptoms, I presume. Might be worth getting a PT who specializes in vestibular. I got sent to one due to a diagnosis or vertigo and she luckily figured out it isn't that and is much more likely what is called cervicogenic migraine. Basically a tightness and strain from stabilizer muscles of the neck that connect to back of skull. I always feel tension there when the dizziness is present as well as the pressure type headaches. I just wasn't conscious of it but now I am and they seem entirely related.

 

Other than that, I'm derailing from personal experience to try and be more helpful. I am still not comfortable getting the second shot and so I won't. Plus, I just see the next several months being a back and forth of this or that strain and needing a 3rd shot or something. It's just going to go on and on. Why would it stop now? And the news always keeps us in fear. They will never tell us "it's ok now we've got things under control go live a normal life" they only focus on stories and frame them in a way to keep us scared and tuned in. And so while I do believe the delta strain is more contagious, it's not new that people who are vaccinated can get covid still and pass it on. They have always been saying that but now they're REALLY marketing that information as if to make it look like we need to be extra afraid of the delta strain.

And I'm sure once we burn out on that, we'll have another equally scary thing to talk about relating to covid and it's going to lead to a lot of pressure to do this or that or get this or that shot. So even if I get it, I don't think that's it. There will be a third. Maybe a fourth. Or something else. Or really bad sideffects from so many shots.

And getting the vaccine won't change how I live my life. It's not like I'll get the shot and just start living it up again. So what is it really going to do for me anyway except shut up my stupid peers about pressuring me to get it? Because even they will come back to nag about the third shot or fourth one, ya know?

It's not over. I personally don't think we're close. And what I went through makes me think I'm better off just doing what I have been doing and hope I'm ok. Everyone else who's been perfectly fine can go ahead and get their next shots but yeah, now the news is telling me I can't feel safe just because everyone else is vaxxed.

So I'm very done with all this. Who can you trust and who can help you when things go weirdly? It's hard to say if anyone can.

So if you don't get the next shots, I will completely understand and anyone who still pressures you to after going through what you've went through is being a complete pile of you know what.

Someone told me that "yeah but covid is worse" before hearing the details of my suffering. So if it is from the shot, imagine what round 2 would be like?

My symptoms genuinely had me contemplating suicide if I never got better. Don't ever ask me to go through that again. I've never entertained the idea but I started to think I just might if I'm never normal again because my existence was miserable and indefinite and the doctors were not helpful. 

 

Never again.


   
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@jardelina around a month. How long you been? The hard part was separation of the real things from the panic. What are your symptoms that concern you or bother you? Just bullet point them because if I can relate, I'll elaborate on those points.


   
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@memphismel 

I had joint pain when I woke up Sunday morning...pinky finger on my right hand and my lower right arm...it has been raining here for most of July so I figured it might be the weather...still have a little pain in the finger


   
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  • @helpimdizzy  Hi, these are my symptoms.  Thanks for listening.  
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  • I would say the lightheadedness almost constantly.
  • Heavy head when tired especially watching TV in evening.
  • Unsteadiness when walking
  • Easily fatigued

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Posted by: @greenmonster

@a1oner Please contact America's Frontline Doctors.  They will prescribe Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine.  Ivermectin has been proven to reduce inflamation caused by the vaccines.  They have pharmacies in every major city.  It is a telemed visit and cost $90.  Most people have been lied to about this.  Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine were shown almost 20 years ago to stop the replication of Coronavirus, any Coronavirus.  There have been almost 100 studies showing it stops Covid in as little as one dose.  These drugs are some of the safest drugs ever produced.  Zinc, Vitamin D3 and Ivermectin are the key.  Also NAC has shown to have a lot of promise. 

Ivermectin helps with the virus...fights the viral...Ivermectin does not cross the blood barrier...luvox or fluvoxamine is what they are using in conjunction with ivermectin because luvox acts like an anti-flammatory.


   
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@jardelina gotcha. I see one blank point, was something missing or not?

 

Anyway, I can relate to all these. In an earlier post I mentioned how a lot of it boiled down to neck tension. There is also some stuff out there about how having a fixed gaze can mess up your breathing. It's a lot to take in but it's definitely correlated. But perhaps it's more to do with posture if when watching TV.

 

Walks helped me. How is your breathing? 

 

I also missed how long you've been dealing with this and what shot you're on/which number (first or second etc)

 

Is your lightheadedness more like room is spinning or you're floating or maybe like the sensation of moving through water? Like your sense of motion lags and wobbles a bit? Or do you mean lightheadedness like you fear feinting? Have you yet or think you've come close? Any irregularities to heartbeat?


 


   
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@isismadec I’m so sorry you had a bad reaction to the vaccine.  I had (and posted about it end of April on this forum) what seems to have been an inflammatory response to the second Pfizer.   I woke up with a sound in one ear, but because I did had a bad case of shingles a month earlier, doctors thought it could be a recurrence of that (shingles in my ear and on my head).  I was diagnosed eventually with vestibular neuritis, and am in physical therapy for the resultant balance problem.  To be fair, I had the same problem in February and March with shingles.  No balance.  The exercises have worked well for me and I’m almost back to good balance.  I never had vertigo or balance problems before shingles, and now since Pfizer.  But I would take the vaccine again.  Covid is too awful.  We have lost relatives and friends would could not get vaccinated in time, or were overseas without access.  There is a risk to the vaccine.  Side effects can be unpleasant.   But long haul Covid is worse.  And much much much more of a risk than the side effects, which are nearly always transient.  Mine are nearly gone (but yes, it has taken many weeks).  

don’t give up, look for real answers, change doctors,  and don’t listen to advice suggesting ivermectin, or hydroxychloroquine and such.  All you need to do is look at the death tolls in Brazil and India to know those things, which were prescribed to everyone, (not any more), just don’t work at all.  

good luck, and feel better, and stick with the science.  Not the quacks.  You can do this.

 

 

Sorry you feel that way about ivermectin but YES it does work...hydroxychloroquine was used in the very beginning but, they found that ivermectin was the game changer...along with other medicines that are saving peoples lives!


   
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@gingerjones 

my right pinky finger is the worst of the bunch. 


   
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@helpimdizzy I would say its like a floating feeling. Not actual room spinning. 

Walks seem to stimulate the vestibular system and make it worse.  

I would say symptoms beganend of April  until now.  I had first vaccine April 27th.

Its tough eh?  No i did not miss any, even tough that line is empty.  


   
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@helpimdizzy oh i did forget one.  When i turn my head to left or right and up and down, i will get dizzy.


   
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@helpimdizzy No irregularities to heartbeat.  When eating crunchy foods, feeling off balance.  


   
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@jardelina I wonder if it's neck tension related? It is for me but I'm still suspicious it's from the shot in some way so I'm not trying to imply it isn't.

 

A PT helped me figure it out. Did you get any unhelpful help from doctors yet?

 

Basically these stabilizer muscles can be strained and until I was conscious of it I didn't notice and now I do very often. They can send a ton of disorienting signals regarding head position to the brain. Can also cause little blood vessel spasms all of which could explain your symptoms.

 

Do you feel stress or tension back of head below skull? 

 

 


   
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@gingerjones Thank you for the reply.  I did some research and you are right Luvox has some very good promise for Vaccine inflammation.  I read early on last year that they found that there were multiple SSRI medications that had possible impact on preventing Covid. 

Early last year I decided that there were many things that were not adding up.  Hydroxychloroquine being labeled as dangerous and banned, Ivermectin being kept from people and even the various SSRI medications that were never told about to the general population.  The entire road was being cleared for the vaccines being the only option.  The possible side effects and dangers of the vaccines being buried and covered up was all I needed to see.  The idea that a vaccine is going to work for a constantly mutating Coronavirus was a ridiculous pipe dream.   

There are many life saving options other than vaccines.  Think antibiotics just for one.  There is nothing science based about banning opposing views and also trying other options.  The use of the vaccine has become a golden calf for people and for many it has been a deadly choice.

The argument that Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine can not be used until huge multi year studies have been done is the ultimate hypocrisy considering they are giving millions of people untested experimental vaccines.  


   
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Posted by: @gingerjones
Posted by: @greenmonster

@a1oner Please contact America's Frontline Doctors.  They will prescribe Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine.  Ivermectin has been proven to reduce inflamation caused by the vaccines.  They have pharmacies in every major city.  It is a telemed visit and cost $90.  Most people have been lied to about this.  Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine were shown almost 20 years ago to stop the replication of Coronavirus, any Coronavirus.  There have been almost 100 studies showing it stops Covid in as little as one dose.  These drugs are some of the safest drugs ever produced.  Zinc, Vitamin D3 and Ivermectin are the key.  Also NAC has shown to have a lot of promise. 

Ivermectin helps with the virus...fights the viral...Ivermectin does not cross the blood barrier...luvox or fluvoxamine is what they are using in conjunction with ivermectin because luvox acts like an anti-flammatory.

If only there was a solution in Australia......I'm in 4 months post Astra Zeneca hell!


   
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