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Sassafras
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@isismadec Thanks, dragonlover ...that's my hope! BUT I don't expect for that information to become front and center for those that are contemplating getting the Covid vaccine to take into consideration anytime soon. There has been and is much investment on the part of those not seeing anything to do to stem the tide of this new coronavirus except to vaccine all who will and investment on the part of companies that have developed and are now supplying the vaccines.

It is a quandary - and I did choose to take the Moderna vaccine after avoiding vaccines in the past. However, now that I have daily evidence that I happen to be one for whom the side effects are ...unbelievable by the average person, I'll revert to my previous stance of not vaccinating myself in the future. I don't think I was "broken", in need of fixing ...but I sure think I am now. 🙄

I'd say there's a lot of belief mixed into all this ...of what you choose to lean into ...and I respect that we all have to do the best job we can of making our choices. It's been a difficult year!


   
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@isismadec Thanks, dragonlover ...that's my hope! BUT I don't expect for that information to become front and center for those that are contemplating getting the Covid vaccine to take into consideration anytime soon. There has been and is much investment on the part of those not seeing anything to do to stem the tide of this new coronavirus except to vaccine all who will and investment on the part of companies that have developed and are now supplying the vaccines.

It is a quandary - and I did choose to take the Moderna vaccine after avoiding vaccines in the past. However, now that I have daily evidence that I happen to be one for whom the side effects are ...unbelievable by the average person, I'll revert to my previous stance of not vaccinating myself in the future. I don't think I was "broken", in need of fixing ...but I sure think I am now. 🙄

I'd say there's a lot of belief mixed into all this ...of what you choose to lean into ...and I respect that we all have to do the best job we can of making our choices. It's been a difficult year!

My belief is that these side effects have been suppressed right from the beginning, and will continue to be for a long time--because if the truth was known, people would start refusing the vaccine.  But I also believe that the word will get out little by little--mainly by those who suffered the side effects and tell others about it.  

There is also  a lot of societal and peer pressure to get vaccinated.  Those who choose to opt out are vilified, lectured, nagged, berated and name-called.  Many people will succumb to that kind of pressure, so they'll take their chances with the vaccine, even though they feel it's not in their best interest to do so.

I am very disturbed by the misleading PSA's I'm hearing everywhere now--how the vaccine has minimal side effects--nothing more than a sore arm or flu-like symptoms for a day or two.  I also wonder if there will be long term effects that show up, that no one knows about yet because this is too new, and experimental.

I am not an anti-vaxxer, not a conspiracy theorist or anything else I've been accused of being because I have chosen to forego this particular vaccine.  My body, my choice, and anyone who doesn't like it can go pound sand.  Meanwhile, I will continue to isolate as much as possible, not gather with others, not travel, and continue to wear a mask when I must go out.


   
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@tabby

I think it will take a long time before reality comes to light, and not before a lot of people have suffered.  This will be suppressed as long as possible.


   
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Thanks for this link. Dr Danice Hertz posted on Feb 25, 2021 and Mar 8, 2021 outlining his side effects after the covid vaccine. Interesting to see so many professionals with different opinions. It seems you have to have these horrid symptoms yourself before believing they exist.

Hi Tabby, Yes, seeing is believing!

If you do a Google search for Dr Danice Hertz you will see she has been sharing her experiences following Covid vaccination in a number of places, although the one I gave the link for didn't come up when I tried it. She is a recently retired GI doctor in California that has some excellent reviews from some of her patients. I hope she will recover from her vaccine reactions and it doesn't take a year ...although I'd take a recovery timeline of a year for complete recovery as opposed to not recovering!


   
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@isismadec Thanks, Dragon lover! It also disturbs me that associations between Bell's Palsy and Covid vaccination have been minimized as being only the rate you would expect, but I've also seen an article that says an incorrect statistical formula was applied to come to that conclusion. Also, the information that a vaccine manufacturer put out regarding no need to vaccinate those that had been infected with Covid that got changed to a recommendation by the powers that be for vaccination regardless of prior coronavirus infection. But. you don't hear about those accounts much. Time will tell ...those with adverse effects may prove to be a very slim minority, but it would be good to have accurate information for us and our medical advisors to use in determining risk vs benefit. I'm not an anti-vaxer either, but I know my body tends to overreact to many things, so for myself I'm very conservative about anything that could affect me.


   
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@soraya do you have hypertension like cirohe40? Just trying to find the common reason for the dizziness or cause. 🙏 


   
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@joerescen do you have hypertension? Or have had veritigo before?


   
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I’m a healthy 31 year old, and I got my 2nd dose of moderna on Tuesday 3/30 at 11am. My that night I had body fatigue/pain. Wednesday morning I could not move from the bed without extreme body pain(my eye lids and the inside of my ears even hurt). I had a slight fever as well. Thursday my fever wasn’t as high but my body pain while slightly better, was still present and very fatigued. Friday I was a little better, body pain only was in my legs and hands still. Still got fatigued doing minor tasks such as showering. Saturday body pain was a little better but now had a bad headache and the back of my head hurt and only slight hand/leg pain. Today, Sunday, I woke up with vertigo. The room wasn’t spinning per say but I feel like I have a water balloon inside my head that’s going back and forth. It will subside some and then return at random times and my head hurts in the front and the back. The body pain has mostly gone away which is good but I still don’t have a lot of energy even when I get a full nights sleep. Going to doctor tomorrow to see if anything he can do. Anyone else experience this?? Thanks 


   
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Posted by: @thenystagmus

@isismadec Thanks, Dragon lover! It also disturbs me that associations between Bell's Palsy and Covid vaccination have been minimized as being only the rate you would expect, but I've also seen an article that says an incorrect statistical formula was applied to come to that conclusion. Also, the information that a vaccine manufacturer put out regarding no need to vaccinate those that had been infected with Covid that got changed to a recommendation by the powers that be for vaccination regardless of prior coronavirus infection. But. you don't hear about those accounts much. Time will tell ...those with adverse effects may prove to be a very slim minority, but it would be good to have accurate information for us and our medical advisors to use in determining risk vs benefit. I'm not an anti-vaxer either, but I know my body tends to overreact to many things, so for myself I'm very conservative about anything that could affect me.

I have read anywhere from 11% to 16% have had the vestibular effects.  While this is the minority, it's still a significant number of people.  Too many people.  


   
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Hi! My name is Mary and I just recently had the second dose of Moderna. With both vaccines, I had symptoms of aching, tiredness, and a feeling of being light headed. It was only until a few days had passed that I realized my vertigo had been triggered. Luckily, it hasn’t been too extreme, but if I am in a store setting with low lighting, it becomes pronounced. I have read some of your comments regarding this issue and this post may fit into your conversation. I have also had Bell’s Palsey.


   
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@isismadec ...you said, "I have read anywhere from 11% to 16% have had the vestibular effects.  While this is the minority, it's still a significant number of people.  Too many people."

Yes, I've seen those percentages among those reporting side effects. And what information is given our medical caregivers? They seem to be getting none or very little. To the point that a lot of them tell us they don't believe vestibular side effects are an issue with Covid vaccination. Gosh, I'm glad my care provider doesn't tell me that! Although, even if they believe there is a connection they have little idea of the duration we should expect, treatment, and so on...

I saw one account (maybe here?) of paramedics arriving to transport someone to the hospital and saying there was a virus causing vertigo going around. I thought - Hmmm, possibly what they were seeing was a run of Covid vaccine reactions causing vertigo.


   
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Just joined and learning the ropes. My hubby and I got first vaccine on Feb 24. No side effects except headaches for me, but not that uncommon. Dismissed it. Second shot March 17 about a week later both of us have extreme fatigue and headaches plus vertigo. Husband thought it was allergies. Not!!! I got a migraine along with daily headaches. I’ve had vertigo once in my life and now after second shot afraid I will fall as my head is spinning. Hubby never had dizziness or vertigo before, but incredibly dizzy everyday now. This forum is the first time I have made the connection it could be from the vaccine, too coincidental to ignore. I hope someone soon posts it will be over soon as we are both miserable. Wish we would have known the possible side effects so we could have made informed decisions but give the rush and the severity of COVID, we both it appears took a grave risk. 


   
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Gosh, I'm glad my care provider doesn't tell me that! Although, even if they believe there is a connection they have little idea of the duration we should expect, treatment, and so on...

 

In all fairness, some providers are taking this seriously.  I have a friend who has Meniere's Disease, as I do.  I sent her this link.   She ran all this by her PCP.  She was advised against having the vaccine. She heeded that adivice.  Same friend has another friend whose SIL is an anesthesiologist--and he does not want his own family to have the vaccine.  Telling, isn't it?

I will not tell anyone else to have or not have the vaccine.  That is none of my business.  But I will tell them what I've read here, and give them the link.  I would feel terrible if someone had the vaccine not knowing about this possibility and then had a terrible reaction--and even though I knew, I didn't tell them.  I will not keep silent about this.


   
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@soraya do you have hypertension like cirohe40? Just trying to find the common reason for the dizziness or cause. 🙏 

I am not the poster you addressed but to answer your question, I have noticed reading these posts that many of those affected have mentioned having either a preexisting vestibular disorder or history of migraine, while others said that they had no condition which could account for the dizziness.


   
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This worries me terribly. Has ANYONE gotten past it? I got my 2nd shot 3 days ago now. Started feeling dizzy yesterday - but after a hard workout. I figured it was the workout. Took some Pedialite and that actually seemed to help, for a while. Now I'm back where I was. Dizzy with a metallic taste in my mouth. I actually canceled my second vaccine once as I was in the hospital in September with COVID. I should have listened to my gut. Now what? 


   
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