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@ichi that’s good to hear. How long have you been taking the antihistamines? And are you now getting 7 hours? 


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@callie I took them few weeks, then I made a break as it didn't work so well anymore (either because of flare up or some tolerance came??). afterwards I took them 2-3 times a week when I felt I need to. I was able to sleep 7-8 hours and when I wake up I was also more sleepy than without taking. but now I haven't taken them since I went to holiday and have been sleeping 7-8 hours too. good luck!


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@pfizerinjured no, the vasodilatation leads to brain fog, headaches, and the pressure can increase broader Neuro symptoms. Raised BP and BP spikes are caused by one of two things (past immediate post vax reaction phase): 1) autoantibodies (and possibly molecular mimicry) that disrupts the body's blood pressure regulatory system (Renin Angiotensin System) in some way, or 2) autonomic dysfunction due to either auto antibodies interfering with the balance of sympathetic/parasympathetic nerve balance (similar to POTS) or same effect but instead of antibodies, driven by micro-vasculature interruption of blood flow to the autonomic nerves causing disruption (e.g. neuritis in nerves, neuroinflammation in brain). 

 

If your BP is mostly normal baseline and then spikes with movement or certain times of day, it's more likely #2. If your BP is constantly high and spikes on top of that, it could be either #1 or #2.

Thanks for another detailed reply, Mike.

 

I think for me, it is both 1) and 2). 

 

But I've had some weird headches since the vax.  I rarely had headaches in the past.  But lately (I am 6 months post 2nd jab), I've been having some pressure headaches (like there's a tight rubber band around my head), or throbbing headaches which I almost never ever had before.

 

My BP is borderline high, isn't it, at 125-30/80ish? have all kinds of symptoms, inclg neuritis, neuropathy etc.  Should I panic?

those numbers would be pre-hypertensive in US and normal in Europe. Some people are getting consistently high BP with spikes on top of that. That is my situation. My BP would regularly stay in the 160s to 170s and in afternoon spike higher. For others, BP is very normal in some situations like lying down but tends to spike to 150s to 160s with movement/exertion and especially lifting things. The former is believed to be more auto immune and the later more autonomic dysfunction due to underlying vascular dysfunction. 

Your focus should be on limiting vascular inflammation and bringing down cytokines/removing remaining spike protein and managing thru symptoms in meantime. Hopefully, over time those will all normalize and then if there is any autoimmune, it can slowly resolve on its own.

Statins and low dose aspirin for many months consistently can help. Fluvoxamine low dose (12.5mg to 25mg) can help with brain fog and pressure issues. Low inflammation/low histamine diets can help and/or taking H1 AND H2 antihistamine blockers; and possibly taking a DAO histamine blocker. If you can tolerate it, 5 to 7 day water fasts can really help. For me, I have not done that because my BP med needs to be taken 3x daily with fatty foods for absorption. Works to force inflammatory cells into autophagy (die off) and thus reset and calm immune system. 

Gut health is important: highly associated with balancing the immune system. Pre and probiotics over time can help there. 

Some supplements that help balance the immune system, calm cytokine inflammation and even help re-polarize the bad monocytes (holding onto spike): Vitamin C 500mg time release x2 daily, melatonin 5mg - 10mg nightly, Omega-3 3 to 4 grams daily.

IF you are not taking alot of prescription meds, the best herbal supplements are Curcumin, Dandelion Root, and Black Cumin Seed.

NAC and Vitamin D are more iffy: helps some and makes things worse for others. I personally stay away from them. Vitamin D may block the re-polarization of bad (nonclassical) monocytes. And it has a LONG half life: if it make things worse, it's not going to leave your body for months!

In meantime, you can try LDN or Gabapentin to help calm nerve pains until your body can heal. 


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New pre-print article worth a look. Tagged from Avindra Nath. If you don't know who he is, he is at US NIH and has been investigating post vax for some time. So this would be a publication US doctors would be more inclined to accept as true.

Seems the data supports. Interesting the super heavy skew to females, which I've heard elsewhere as well: this is vastly more a female vs. Male issue both in likelihood to contract and in severity. Also interesting on early treatment with steroids and longer term IVIG results.....

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.16.22274439v1

 

Thank you for posting this. It is a start. At least they stated that: "Since all SARS-CoV-2 vaccines encode the spike protein, anti-spike protein immune responses may link post-COVID and post-vaccine syndromes."

You may have seen Dr. Been's recent interview about the NIH/NINDS study.

"First Ever NIH/NINDS Study on Vaccine-Caused Neurological Injuries (Preprint)."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XGpe6MTaFg

It covers some of the possible treatments for neurological and other vaccine injuries and explains why treatments such as steroids and IVIg may only have a temporary effect. (Steroids such as prednisone may be most useful if given within a week or two after the initial vaccine injury.) Benefits of an anti-inflammatory diet are also discussed.

If anti-spike antibodies and especially autoantibodies are a major factor behind symptoms, Dr. Been suggests that it would be optimal to figure out a way to get rid of the B cells producing the antibodies as well as the B cells producing the autoantibodies, as opposed to just getting rid of the antibodies and autoantibodies themselves.

Dr. Been said he plans to interview Dr. William Murphy, who has studied autoantibodies after covid vaccination, on Monday.

Here is one of Dr. Murphy's articles:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMcibr2113694

And responses to his paper:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2119443


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I started getting blocked ears a few days after my booster (I got boosted late, in march of this year). Progressed to ear pain and tinnitus, and eventually a strange dizziness and tiredness that has lasted a couple months now. I'm hesitant to blame the vaccine, this could also be a virus or a number of other causes but it is interesting to see many people with similar symptoms.  I saw an ENT doctor and he has confirmed that he has seen many patients with ear and balance problems from the vaccines and from COVID-19 infection. I still have tinnitus but no hearing loss according to a hearing test.  He gave my a 6 month recovery time for the tinnitus but he may have just been trying to make me feel better.  

Time since booster that caused symptoms: 10 weeks

Summary of symptoms:

-'On a boat' constant dizziness that does not seem to respond to traditional vertigo treatments

-Tiredness and brain fog

-Tinnitus in both ears that seems to constantly be changing.  Its louder in the side I got my shot on.

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@pfizerinjured no, the vasodilatation leads to brain fog, headaches, and the pressure can increase broader Neuro symptoms. Raised BP and BP spikes are caused by one of two things (past immediate post vax reaction phase): 1) autoantibodies (and possibly molecular mimicry) that disrupts the body's blood pressure regulatory system (Renin Angiotensin System) in some way, or 2) autonomic dysfunction due to either auto antibodies interfering with the balance of sympathetic/parasympathetic nerve balance (similar to POTS) or same effect but instead of antibodies, driven by micro-vasculature interruption of blood flow to the autonomic nerves causing disruption (e.g. neuritis in nerves, neuroinflammation in brain). 

 

If your BP is mostly normal baseline and then spikes with movement or certain times of day, it's more likely #2. If your BP is constantly high and spikes on top of that, it could be either #1 or #2.

Thanks for another detailed reply, Mike.

 

I think for me, it is both 1) and 2). 

 

But I've had some weird headches since the vax.  I rarely had headaches in the past.  But lately (I am 6 months post 2nd jab), I've been having some pressure headaches (like there's a tight rubber band around my head), or throbbing headaches which I almost never ever had before.

 

My BP is borderline high, isn't it, at 125-30/80ish? have all kinds of symptoms, inclg neuritis, neuropathy etc.  Should I panic?

those numbers would be pre-hypertensive in US and normal in Europe. Some people are getting consistently high BP with spikes on top of that. That is my situation. My BP would regularly stay in the 160s to 170s and in afternoon spike higher. For others, BP is very normal in some situations like lying down but tends to spike to 150s to 160s with movement/exertion and especially lifting things. The former is believed to be more auto immune and the later more autonomic dysfunction due to underlying vascular dysfunction. 

Your focus should be on limiting vascular inflammation and bringing down cytokines/removing remaining spike protein and managing thru symptoms in meantime. Hopefully, over time those will all normalize and then if there is any autoimmune, it can slowly resolve on its own.

Statins and low dose aspirin for many months consistently can help. Fluvoxamine low dose (12.5mg to 25mg) can help with brain fog and pressure issues. Low inflammation/low histamine diets can help and/or taking H1 AND H2 antihistamine blockers; and possibly taking a DAO histamine blocker. If you can tolerate it, 5 to 7 day water fasts can really help. For me, I have not done that because my BP med needs to be taken 3x daily with fatty foods for absorption. Works to force inflammatory cells into autophagy (die off) and thus reset and calm immune system. 

Gut health is important: highly associated with balancing the immune system. Pre and probiotics over time can help there. 

Some supplements that help balance the immune system, calm cytokine inflammation and even help re-polarize the bad monocytes (holding onto spike): Vitamin C 500mg time release x2 daily, melatonin 5mg - 10mg nightly, Omega-3 3 to 4 grams daily.

IF you are not taking alot of prescription meds, the best herbal supplements are Curcumin, Dandelion Root, and Black Cumin Seed.

NAC and Vitamin D are more iffy: helps some and makes things worse for others. I personally stay away from them. Vitamin D may block the re-polarization of bad (nonclassical) monocytes. And it has a LONG half life: if it make things worse, it's not going to leave your body for months!

In meantime, you can try LDN or Gabapentin to help calm nerve pains until your body can heal. 

Mike, thank you sooo much for all that.  I hope I understood most of what you've said, lol.

 

I believe I have both vascular inflammation as well as autoimmune issues, such as pressure (and sometimes throbbing) headaches, super high antibodies (TPO around 1400.  I have Hashimoto's but this is super super high).  I also have histamine issues when I never used to.  I've recently started a low histamine diet and am considering takin a DAO supplement.  Looking into H1 and H2 blockers (any you can recommend please?).

I don't think I can fast.  I shake badly with hunger and can't go for a few hours without eating (could be blood sugar issue? dunno).  I take Umeboshi as a prebiotic and am looking for a low histamine probiotic (a bit reluctant to take it as some/ most are fermented and can be an issue for someone with histamines problem).

Do you know which Vit C is good?  I read some are just corn syrup fermented (so mould is an issue here).

I am taking Omega-3, though not as much as you recommend.  Trying to increase the dosage.

Have Dandelion Root and am considering taking it/

NAC and black cumin seed (the latter I loved) are now not available options as I am dealing with a relapse of Botox poisoning (Pfizer triggered the relapse).  I think Curcumin is also out.

Vit D is that bad huh (though I am not sure I fully understand what you've said about it.  I need to read up more!!).  I am apparently low on Vit D (as well as B12).  What do I do now?

Will ask my PCP about LDN and Gabapentin.

 

Many thanks again.

 

 

 


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Posted by: @dizzydave

I started getting blocked ears a few days after my booster (I got boosted late, in march of this year). Progressed to ear pain and tinnitus, and eventually a strange dizziness and tiredness that has lasted a couple months now. I'm hesitant to blame the vaccine, this could also be a virus or a number of other causes but it is interesting to see many people with similar symptoms.  I saw an ENT doctor and he has confirmed that he has seen many patients with ear and balance problems from the vaccines and from COVID-19 infection. I still have tinnitus but no hearing loss according to a hearing test.  He gave my a 6 month recovery time for the tinnitus but he may have just been trying to make me feel better.  

Time since booster that caused symptoms: 10 weeks

Summary of symptoms:

-'On a boat' constant dizziness that does not seem to respond to traditional vertigo treatments

-Tiredness and brain fog

-Tinnitus in both ears that seems to constantly be changing.  Its louder in the side I got my shot on.

I could've written this exact post, word for word.

I'm suffering from all these (plus many more) since the Pfizer vaccine.  My Dr and a few other healthcare providers have admitted they've seen patients with these symptoms post vaccines.

A physio told me that my vertigo (room spinning) and dizziness (on a boat feeling) are NOT going to respond to traditional treatments, for eg. the Epley Manoeuvre because this is not a middle/inner ear issue, rather it is nerve damage.


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New pre-print article worth a look. Tagged from Avindra Nath. If you don't know who he is, he is at US NIH and has been investigating post vax for some time. So this would be a publication US doctors would be more inclined to accept as true.

Seems the data supports. Interesting the super heavy skew to females, which I've heard elsewhere as well: this is vastly more a female vs. Male issue both in likelihood to contract and in severity. Also interesting on early treatment with steroids and longer term IVIG results.....

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.16.22274439v1

 

Thank you for posting this. It is a start. At least they stated that: "Since all SARS-CoV-2 vaccines encode the spike protein, anti-spike protein immune responses may link post-COVID and post-vaccine syndromes."

You may have seen Dr. Been's recent interview about the NIH/NINDS study.

"First Ever NIH/NINDS Study on Vaccine-Caused Neurological Injuries (Preprint)."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XGpe6MTaFg

It covers some of the possible treatments for neurological and other vaccine injuries and explains why treatments such as steroids and IVIg may only have a temporary effect. (Steroids such as prednisone may be most useful if given within a week or two after the initial vaccine injury.) Benefits of an anti-inflammatory diet are also discussed.

If anti-spike antibodies and especially autoantibodies are a major factor behind symptoms, Dr. Been suggests that it would be optimal to figure out a way to get rid of the B cells producing the antibodies as well as the B cells producing the autoantibodies, as opposed to just getting rid of the antibodies and autoantibodies themselves.

Dr. Been said he plans to interview Dr. William Murphy, who has studied autoantibodies after covid vaccination, on Monday.

Here is one of Dr. Murphy's articles:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMcibr2113694

And responses to his paper:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2119443

I saw the Been live cast interview the other night. Seems that while it's good that NIH and leading medical centers are finally acknowledging and publishing on post vax, their results are WAY overstated. Appears most of study group did not get better longer term. I was surprised when I read steroids and IVIG were working so well. Makes sense that they are just temporary for weeks to a few months remission. 

Looking forward to Monday's interview with Dr. Murphy!


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This an article from an SARS-CoV-2 researcher in the NHS that had a severe reaction to the vaccine. 

https://dontbelievehype.co.uk/life-of-a-scientist/f/i-am-a-covid-scientist-i-had-a-severe-chronic-vaccine-reaction?fbclid=IwAR0b7AYRY6869yt0GpacNiejcOxoocYtWaee4fffiTYniRf1_NUjyGYRnB4

Thank you Abby for posting this article. Her low vitamin B-12 and some of the symptoms associated with it prompted me to look into getting myself checked out. I wanted to let you know you can get B-12 and folate checked at Quest diagnostics without a doctors order. You can just buy the test online and schedule an appt. The test was $79.00. Not cheap but I'll be getting it checked on Monday and don't need to wait to see my GP and convince him to order the test. BTW symptoms of B12 deficiency include: fatigue, headache, difficulty concentrating and mental impairment, gastrointestinal issues, impaired coordination, visual disturbance and paresthesia (pins and needles). 

 

Have a great evening and stay strong 🙂

 

 

Seems like Vit D and Vit B12 deficiency is common among many vax-injured people.

 

I tested my Vit D and B12 about 3 weeks ago and they were low, when they were never low before.  (I had 2 Pfizer shots in Oct & Nov 2021.  All hell broke loose afterwards!).


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Posted by: @pfizerinjured
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@pfizerinjured no, the vasodilatation leads to brain fog, headaches, and the pressure can increase broader Neuro symptoms. Raised BP and BP spikes are caused by one of two things (past immediate post vax reaction phase): 1) autoantibodies (and possibly molecular mimicry) that disrupts the body's blood pressure regulatory system (Renin Angiotensin System) in some way, or 2) autonomic dysfunction due to either auto antibodies interfering with the balance of sympathetic/parasympathetic nerve balance (similar to POTS) or same effect but instead of antibodies, driven by micro-vasculature interruption of blood flow to the autonomic nerves causing disruption (e.g. neuritis in nerves, neuroinflammation in brain). 

 

If your BP is mostly normal baseline and then spikes with movement or certain times of day, it's more likely #2. If your BP is constantly high and spikes on top of that, it could be either #1 or #2.

Thanks for another detailed reply, Mike.

 

I think for me, it is both 1) and 2). 

 

But I've had some weird headches since the vax.  I rarely had headaches in the past.  But lately (I am 6 months post 2nd jab), I've been having some pressure headaches (like there's a tight rubber band around my head), or throbbing headaches which I almost never ever had before.

 

My BP is borderline high, isn't it, at 125-30/80ish? have all kinds of symptoms, inclg neuritis, neuropathy etc.  Should I panic?

those numbers would be pre-hypertensive in US and normal in Europe. Some people are getting consistently high BP with spikes on top of that. That is my situation. My BP would regularly stay in the 160s to 170s and in afternoon spike higher. For others, BP is very normal in some situations like lying down but tends to spike to 150s to 160s with movement/exertion and especially lifting things. The former is believed to be more auto immune and the later more autonomic dysfunction due to underlying vascular dysfunction. 

Your focus should be on limiting vascular inflammation and bringing down cytokines/removing remaining spike protein and managing thru symptoms in meantime. Hopefully, over time those will all normalize and then if there is any autoimmune, it can slowly resolve on its own.

Statins and low dose aspirin for many months consistently can help. Fluvoxamine low dose (12.5mg to 25mg) can help with brain fog and pressure issues. Low inflammation/low histamine diets can help and/or taking H1 AND H2 antihistamine blockers; and possibly taking a DAO histamine blocker. If you can tolerate it, 5 to 7 day water fasts can really help. For me, I have not done that because my BP med needs to be taken 3x daily with fatty foods for absorption. Works to force inflammatory cells into autophagy (die off) and thus reset and calm immune system. 

Gut health is important: highly associated with balancing the immune system. Pre and probiotics over time can help there. 

Some supplements that help balance the immune system, calm cytokine inflammation and even help re-polarize the bad monocytes (holding onto spike): Vitamin C 500mg time release x2 daily, melatonin 5mg - 10mg nightly, Omega-3 3 to 4 grams daily.

IF you are not taking alot of prescription meds, the best herbal supplements are Curcumin, Dandelion Root, and Black Cumin Seed.

NAC and Vitamin D are more iffy: helps some and makes things worse for others. I personally stay away from them. Vitamin D may block the re-polarization of bad (nonclassical) monocytes. And it has a LONG half life: if it make things worse, it's not going to leave your body for months!

In meantime, you can try LDN or Gabapentin to help calm nerve pains until your body can heal. 

Mike, thank you sooo much for all that.  I hope I understood most of what you've said, lol.

 

I believe I have both vascular inflammation as well as autoimmune issues, such as pressure (and sometimes throbbing) headaches, super high antibodies (TPO around 1400.  I have Hashimoto's but this is super super high).  I also have histamine issues when I never used to.  I've recently started a low histamine diet and am considering takin a DAO supplement.  Looking into H1 and H2 blockers (any you can recommend please?).

I don't think I can fast.  I shake badly with hunger and can't go for a few hours without eating (could be blood sugar issue? dunno).  I take Umeboshi as a prebiotic and am looking for a low histamine probiotic (a bit reluctant to take it as some/ most are fermented and can be an issue for someone with histamines problem).

Do you know which Vit C is good?  I read some are just corn syrup fermented (so mould is an issue here).

I am taking Omega-3, though not as much as you recommend.  Trying to increase the dosage.

Have Dandelion Root and am considering taking it/

NAC and black cumin seed (the latter I loved) are now not available options as I am dealing with a relapse of Botox poisoning (Pfizer triggered the relapse).  I think Curcumin is also out.

Vit D is that bad huh (though I am not sure I fully understand what you've said about it.  I need to read up more!!).  I am apparently low on Vit D (as well as B12).  What do I do now?

Will ask my PCP about LDN and Gabapentin.

 

Many thanks again.

 

 

 

For H2 blocker, generally the most effective is Pepcid (famotidine) 20mg - 40mg /day

For H1 blocker, either loratadine 10mg or cetirizine 10mg.

If fasting is not an option, the next best is plant based diet (eliminate all animal proteins); takes several months with that approach. Otherwise, manage symptoms while body tries to recover by sticking with low histamine diet and/or using antihistamines. 

For vitamin C, I really like this product: Solaray Super Bio Buffered Vitamin C 1000mg with Bioflavonoids, Time Release Immune Support

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00013YZ0M?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

For omega 3, make sure you are taking with food (preferably fatty) to ensure good absorption. Otherwise, make sure to get a form called "triglyceride form" which enhances absorption dramatically no matter whether you take food with it or not.

Where did you get botox poisoning? 

Vitamin D is just a watchout. It works for many and does nothing either way for some. But for some, it makes things worse and if that happens you are stuck with it for a few months as it has a very long half life and is bound to fat cells/liver. There is also conflicting data that shows it may prevent monocytes from re-polarizing. Whether that is a bad things depends on whether you are pursing treatments to try to eliminate them or are just dealing with symptoms while waiting out body to eventually eliminate them.


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Posted by: @abby6

This an article from an SARS-CoV-2 researcher in the NHS that had a severe reaction to the vaccine. 

https://dontbelievehype.co.uk/life-of-a-scientist/f/i-am-a-covid-scientist-i-had-a-severe-chronic-vaccine-reaction?fbclid=IwAR0b7AYRY6869yt0GpacNiejcOxoocYtWaee4fffiTYniRf1_NUjyGYRnB4

Thank you Abby for posting this article. Her low vitamin B-12 and some of the symptoms associated with it prompted me to look into getting myself checked out. I wanted to let you know you can get B-12 and folate checked at Quest diagnostics without a doctors order. You can just buy the test online and schedule an appt. The test was $79.00. Not cheap but I'll be getting it checked on Monday and don't need to wait to see my GP and convince him to order the test. BTW symptoms of B12 deficiency include: fatigue, headache, difficulty concentrating and mental impairment, gastrointestinal issues, impaired coordination, visual disturbance and paresthesia (pins and needles). 

 

Have a great evening and stay strong 🙂

 

 

Seems like Vit D and Vit B12 deficiency is common among many vax-injured people.

 

I tested my Vit D and B12 about 3 weeks ago and they were low, when they were never low before.  (I had 2 Pfizer shots in Oct & Nov 2021.  All hell broke loose afterwards!).

Yes, mine were both low as well. Been supplementing ever since.

 


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@mike411 Hello. Who is interviewing Dr. Murphy?


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@mike411 Hello. Who is interviewing Dr. Murphy?

@mike411 never mind just saw DrLs post that De, Been will interview him. Thx!


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@pfizerinjured no, the vasodilatation leads to brain fog, headaches, and the pressure can increase broader Neuro symptoms. Raised BP and BP spikes are caused by one of two things (past immediate post vax reaction phase): 1) autoantibodies (and possibly molecular mimicry) that disrupts the body's blood pressure regulatory system (Renin Angiotensin System) in some way, or 2) autonomic dysfunction due to either auto antibodies interfering with the balance of sympathetic/parasympathetic nerve balance (similar to POTS) or same effect but instead of antibodies, driven by micro-vasculature interruption of blood flow to the autonomic nerves causing disruption (e.g. neuritis in nerves, neuroinflammation in brain). 

 

If your BP is mostly normal baseline and then spikes with movement or certain times of day, it's more likely #2. If your BP is constantly high and spikes on top of that, it could be either #1 or #2.

Thanks for another detailed reply, Mike.

 

I think for me, it is both 1) and 2). 

 

But I've had some weird headches since the vax.  I rarely had headaches in the past.  But lately (I am 6 months post 2nd jab), I've been having some pressure headaches (like there's a tight rubber band around my head), or throbbing headaches which I almost never ever had before.

 

My BP is borderline high, isn't it, at 125-30/80ish? have all kinds of symptoms, inclg neuritis, neuropathy etc.  Should I panic?

those numbers would be pre-hypertensive in US and normal in Europe. Some people are getting consistently high BP with spikes on top of that. That is my situation. My BP would regularly stay in the 160s to 170s and in afternoon spike higher. For others, BP is very normal in some situations like lying down but tends to spike to 150s to 160s with movement/exertion and especially lifting things. The former is believed to be more auto immune and the later more autonomic dysfunction due to underlying vascular dysfunction. 

Your focus should be on limiting vascular inflammation and bringing down cytokines/removing remaining spike protein and managing thru symptoms in meantime. Hopefully, over time those will all normalize and then if there is any autoimmune, it can slowly resolve on its own.

Statins and low dose aspirin for many months consistently can help. Fluvoxamine low dose (12.5mg to 25mg) can help with brain fog and pressure issues. Low inflammation/low histamine diets can help and/or taking H1 AND H2 antihistamine blockers; and possibly taking a DAO histamine blocker. If you can tolerate it, 5 to 7 day water fasts can really help. For me, I have not done that because my BP med needs to be taken 3x daily with fatty foods for absorption. Works to force inflammatory cells into autophagy (die off) and thus reset and calm immune system. 

Gut health is important: highly associated with balancing the immune system. Pre and probiotics over time can help there. 

Some supplements that help balance the immune system, calm cytokine inflammation and even help re-polarize the bad monocytes (holding onto spike): Vitamin C 500mg time release x2 daily, melatonin 5mg - 10mg nightly, Omega-3 3 to 4 grams daily.

IF you are not taking alot of prescription meds, the best herbal supplements are Curcumin, Dandelion Root, and Black Cumin Seed.

NAC and Vitamin D are more iffy: helps some and makes things worse for others. I personally stay away from them. Vitamin D may block the re-polarization of bad (nonclassical) monocytes. And it has a LONG half life: if it make things worse, it's not going to leave your body for months!

In meantime, you can try LDN or Gabapentin to help calm nerve pains until your body can heal. 

Mike, thank you sooo much for all that.  I hope I understood most of what you've said, lol.

 

I believe I have both vascular inflammation as well as autoimmune issues, such as pressure (and sometimes throbbing) headaches, super high antibodies (TPO around 1400.  I have Hashimoto's but this is super super high).  I also have histamine issues when I never used to.  I've recently started a low histamine diet and am considering takin a DAO supplement.  Looking into H1 and H2 blockers (any you can recommend please?).

I don't think I can fast.  I shake badly with hunger and can't go for a few hours without eating (could be blood sugar issue? dunno).  I take Umeboshi as a prebiotic and am looking for a low histamine probiotic (a bit reluctant to take it as some/ most are fermented and can be an issue for someone with histamines problem).

Do you know which Vit C is good?  I read some are just corn syrup fermented (so mould is an issue here).

I am taking Omega-3, though not as much as you recommend.  Trying to increase the dosage.

Have Dandelion Root and am considering taking it/

NAC and black cumin seed (the latter I loved) are now not available options as I am dealing with a relapse of Botox poisoning (Pfizer triggered the relapse).  I think Curcumin is also out.

Vit D is that bad huh (though I am not sure I fully understand what you've said about it.  I need to read up more!!).  I am apparently low on Vit D (as well as B12).  What do I do now?

Will ask my PCP about LDN and Gabapentin.

 

Many thanks again.

 

 

 

For H2 blocker, generally the most effective is Pepcid (famotidine) 20mg - 40mg /day

For H1 blocker, either loratadine 10mg or cetirizine 10mg.

If fasting is not an option, the next best is plant based diet (eliminate all animal proteins); takes several months with that approach. Otherwise, manage symptoms while body tries to recover by sticking with low histamine diet and/or using antihistamines. 

For vitamin C, I really like this product: Solaray Super Bio Buffered Vitamin C 1000mg with Bioflavonoids, Time Release Immune Support

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00013YZ0M?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

For omega 3, make sure you are taking with food (preferably fatty) to ensure good absorption. Otherwise, make sure to get a form called "triglyceride form" which enhances absorption dramatically no matter whether you take food with it or not.

Where did you get botox poisoning? 

Vitamin D is just a watchout. It works for many and does nothing either way for some. But for some, it makes things worse and if that happens you are stuck with it for a few months as it has a very long half life and is bound to fat cells/liver. There is also conflicting data that shows it may prevent monocytes from re-polarizing. Whether that is a bad things depends on whether you are pursing treatments to try to eliminate them or are just dealing with symptoms while waiting out body to eventually eliminate them.

Thank you so much once again, Mike.

I had botox on my face but it's spread into my body.  I got sick in Oct 2017, got gradually better and had a 3 year remission where I was almost "normal", then relapsed in Dec 2021 with the P vaccine.  I am having the same symptoms as before plus new ones.  It's super bad this time.

I want to eliminate the Pfizer vaccine from my body.  But a lot supplements/treatments are counter-indicated to Botox and would worsen the symptoms, for example NAC and black seed (cumin) oil.  First thing I need to do though is try to "neutralise" the Botox (by taking inonic copper and drinking celery juice), though I am super careful not to be poisoned with copper.  When I feel a bit better, I will actively pursue detoxing Pfizer, which would include drinking taking a dandelion tincture, drinking pine needle tea and fennel tea.  I want to take Ivermectin but it's not available where I live.

Vit C and Omega-3 are good as are H1 and H2 blockers.

My Vit D and Vit B12 are low (they never used to be low before Pfizer).  My PCP wants me to take a mega dose of Vit D (20,000 iu per week) and take B12 infusion.  I've read on the FB Botox webpage that such treatments have sent many people with Botox poisoning straight to the ER.  So I won't be following his advice.

I still don't know what to do re Vit D.  It also must be taken with a magnesium, which I am also unsure about cuz of Botox poisoning.

 

 


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Is anyone dealing with excessive salivation?  This is a new symptom for me, as of the last week or so.


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