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Sassafras
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This is a broadcast with excerpts of what Robert Malone, MD is saying about adverse effects in humans of the Covid-19 spike protein in the mRNA vaccine

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xC7_pRidnZ0


   
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Considering I have been having symptoms for two months plus now I think I can call myself a veteran of this forum. One thing I have learned through this whole thing is that I can no longer be mad about what is happening. Don’t get me wrong I’m still upset that the vaccine seems to be causing major side effects in a small subset of people. But I’ve noticed the more I dwell on my anger the worse I feel. My symptoms have gotten better for some things. I might have set backs again too. I have to believe in my heart that we will all be fine and eventually recover. If COVID long haulers can recover so can us vaccine long haulers. 

The vaccine is not re writing our DNA or anything like that. We will all get better. I truly believe that.


   
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@lukenick I don't know what the vaccine is doing. I know I can afford to believe that. I wish I knew without a doubt we were all going to recover, but I don't. What I do know is I'm going to be ok, whether I recover or not. This is a temporary address for me and where I have hope of going permanently, there resides one who has all power in all domains, physical and otherwise. I am sojourning here. This is the top card I'm counting on. I've believed my damage is due to my vaccination, but I don't know that for certain. A few of us may be those that would have developed vestibular issues had Covid-19 never happened and had these vaccines never been invented. I've been mulling this over for 3+ months. I want to hope we will all recover, but I will be ok, regardless... 😔🙏


   
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@lilu906 I have not heard of other vaccines.  I can only speak to my own experience unfortunately. 


   
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@thenystagmus Hi, yes, that's question we're all asking isn't it "why". I doubt whether they will say there is a connection with the vaccine, seems to me that topic is taboo. Hopefully your MRI will give you the answers you need to speed your recovery. 

I'm pleased for you that your Covid19 antibody test came back negative, another thing less to worry about.👍

I did have a better night last night thanks, I feel better this morning for it too.

I am of the opinion that the vaccine has caused an inflammatory response and I am personally working on that theory because it gives me hope that it will eventually subside.

Someone here, Sunshine I think, has recently posted about Gregory A. Poland, MR who contracted tinnitus after the vaccine. It's a good read, he believes these symptoms are "inflammatory responses that will disappear completely or considerably diminish over time".🙏😊

Good morning, Tabby ... although I think it's afternoon for you in the UK... 😊 I'm glad you had a better night! I'm getting this deeper-seated exhaustion with not sleeping well. I think my brain is trying to sort out the erroneous information coming from my right vestibular system even while I'm asleep. I'm hoping to be called that the pharmacy has gotten my Medrol script today, but I know I can't just keep doing the steroid dose packs.

I've gotten weary pushing my view that it seems my vaccination triggered this plight, so I didn't bring it up again yesterday. Although, I would like the doctor to theorize my disease process, I don't know if that will happen even after my MRI. I did have a concussion 45 years ago that put me in the hospital for 5 days with symptoms similar to now for over a month and I wonder if damage will show from that.

I was warned that if I had Covid in March 2020 it was possible my antibodies may have waned to an undetectable level, so I'll probably never know if I had it back then for sure.

I think the inflammation therapy quite plausible ...don't know how that figures into autoimmune reaction theory, and then the reactivation of herpes simplex or the shingles herpes variety intrigues me also. Whatever has gone haywire for us, Yes, we are all banking on this going away ASAP! 🤗

Hi Sassafras, good to see your back on form.  I was on here this morning but there's a lot to read since then, it's 11pm here in UK.

I can understand you not bringing up the vaccine yesterday with your ENT, they'd have probably turned a deaf ear to it in any case. No pun intended.

The MRI could pick that old injury up if the brain tissue has never recovered. I had a fall in work about 7 years ago and banged my head against a wall. I was stunned and had to wait for 15 minutes before I could drive home. The right side of my head had a lump the size of an egg on it. I've probably got some scarring from that. That's the side that bothers me most, I get dizzy if I turned onto my right side. I never did anything about it but I often wonder. 

Yes, it's a minefield isn't it. Different theories banded around. I think if we delve too much into trying to figure "why" this is happening to us we are only going to come up with "why not". If doctors are baffled and scientists can't agree, how on earth can we figure it out. I've read that all vaccines cause an inflammatory response and that's the theory I'm going with because it has an acceptable outcome.

I did read an interesting article in The Lancet.com about a man who had been stable for a few years with his rheumatoid arthritis, which as we all know is an autoimmune disease, but after he had the Pfizer vaccine he had a flare and again after his second one. His doctor thought that it might have been triggered by his immune response to a component of the vaccine. 

Glad you managed to get your Medral script, good luck with that😊🙏

There's so much information out there now the mind boggles. Hope you have a good night.🙏😊


   
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@thenystagmus 

I think it’s perfectly fine to feel any type of way about what is going on with us. Regardless of what the vaccine is doing or has done I just know it has helped me to focus on the positive and look towards recovery. That can be extremely hard some days 


   
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Posted by: @lukenick

@thenystagmus 

I think it’s perfectly fine to feel any type of way about what is going on with us. Regardless of what the vaccine is doing or has done I just know it has helped me to focus on the positive and look towards recovery. That can be extremely hard some days 

That is my focus and direction I'm looking also! And, yes, some days that is much more difficult than others ...being repeatedly knocked sprawling has it downsides! 🥴


   
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@tabby Thank you! Yes, I appreciate your comments and I hope you have a restful sleep 🤗


   
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Posted by: @gourdgal

@wibadger My daughter found a CDC site, https://wonder.cdc.gov/Vaers.html and she was able to plug in the Lot number of the Johnson vaccine I received in March.  She found 97 reports of dizziness post vaccine dizziness from my Lot number.  Over 3000 reported for other Johnson lots. I received mine in March. Was a little tired next day but no other symptoms or reactions at the time.  About a month later, I started having short but noticeable episodes of my eyes going out of focus and my balance being off such as could not walk straight.  Have been checking sugar, bp, etc with no obvious causes.  They do not occur every day but have learned when I have one to not plan on driving.  Yesterday I had about 8 incidences during the day. Had taken Meclazine after first so apparently that did not help.  I’m scheduling an appt with inner ear doctors next. 

Wow, thank you!

I'd like to check out that CDC site you provided the link for when I can concentrate on it.

I'd like to see what side effects are posted for my Moderna lot# and the accumulative amounts also.

I hope you are feeling better soon!


   
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@sandra I am very sorry that you went through all that, must have been truly terrifying and very upsetting. How are you feeling now?


   
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Latest news on the BBC is that vaccinations are to be made compulsory for care home staff working with older people in England. They are expected to be given 16 weeks to have the jab or face being redeployed away from frontline care, or lose their jobs. The government is also set to begin consultations on compulsory vaccinations for other health and care staff. A  government announcement is expected in the next few days. 


   
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Hi everyone

I just wondered if it was useful to update people on this. I had my second Pfizer shot 4 days ago and until now felt tired but generally ok until today when I've found my balance more off than usual, followed by a short spell of vertigo again this evening.

The immune response with the second jab happens a lot quicker so it would make sense that symptoms come earlier.

I've now pinpointed all of my vertigo spells after the first jab as being potentially triggered by things like salty food, sugar or scrolling a lot on a screen. Having researched things a bit more, it seems that what the vaccines might be causing in people as part of the immune respone is either Vestibular Neuritis or Vestibular Migraines, which can be linked to the inflammation from viral infection - probably what the vaccine is mimicking.

Vestibular Neuritis is meant to be short lived in the acute phase but can be followed be some occasional dizzy spells for a more extended time, which is why a lot of people have some symptoms, but these do generally subside over time. Vestibular migraines generally cause dizziness but without the headache. Heat, humidity, dehydration, fluroescent lights, motion, internet scrolling, hormones and sleep patterns as well as certain foods can all be triggers for vestibular migraines, in case this is helpful for anybody to look into. 

Just wondered if this was worth considering for others too. I'm now tweaking the anti-inflammatory low histamine diet I'd started (that helped ease symptoms after the first shot) to include anti-migraine foods. I've found a really great website here with some really useful advice around diet for vestibular migraines that I imagine could potentially help with any vestibular issues: https://thedizzycook.com/vestibular-migraine-prevention-diet/ (obviously consult your doctor if you are thinking of embarking on this sort of change as I'm not a medical professional!).

I've previously (10+ years ago) had some kind of Vestibular Neuritis which left me with mild balance issues. I highly recommend anybody on here speaks to their GP and asks to see an audiologist / ENT specialist / neurologist as I was given some vestibular rehabilitation which helped my lingering symptoms and I habituated to them after time too.

The consensus from medical professionals I've spoken to is that the vaccines seem to be reactivating existing conditions in a lot of people - I've heard of a lot of people who are experiencing worsened asthma, allergies, migraines, IBS, angina etc but these are all calming themselves after a period of time after the second vaccine. I think perhaps for those of us with a history of some kind of inner ear issues (and some people without) this is how our immune response might manifest for us, but these symptoms will hopefully subside in time too like others going through different difficult responses. It may be that vestibular issues just take slightly longer to correct themselves and may benefit from outside help, be that dietary changes, vestibular rehabilitation etc.

Somebody else on this board made another helpful point they had picked up from a specialist, who pointed out that for the past year or so our vestibular systems haven't had the same practice they would do - not going in cars as much, not being in crowds or out in a variety of situations which involve motion, head turning, visual stimuli. This was a great thing to point out I think, it could also be many of us have over-sensitive vestibular systems right now that aren't as strong as they were, but this can all be built back up over time (what vestibular rehab focuses on).

I will update here again on how my diet is helping symptoms and if I find anything else that might be of any help to others. I still believe these vaccines are much safer than getting Covid or Long Covid - every medical professional I have spoken to stresses how these strange symptoms are our own immune responses rather than a reaction to any specific part of the vaccine. 

Sending compassion and strength to everybody posting here xx

 


   
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Latest news on the BBC is that vaccinations are to be made compulsory for care home staff working with older people in England. They are expected to be given 16 weeks to have the jab or face being redeployed away from frontline care, or lose their jobs. The government is also set to begin consultations on compulsory vaccinations for other health and care staff. A  government announcement is expected in the next few days. 

I need a dis-Like button for this one!! 😞


   
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@thenystagmus 

I think it’s perfectly fine to feel any type of way about what is going on with us. Regardless of what the vaccine is doing or has done I just know it has helped me to focus on the positive and look towards recovery. That can be extremely hard some days 

That is my focus and direction I'm looking also! And, yes, some days that is much more difficult than others ...being repeatedly knocked sprawling has it downsides! 🥴

I've said many times, Life needs to have some Fudge!! (ie, enjoyable things) ...I'm still looking for whatever Fudge I can come up with ...in the midst of all this!

Thanks for your upbeat encouragement, @Lukenick!


   
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@thenystagmus Thankyou.  I haven’t researched it yet myself.  This forum has been most helpful  . I realize my issues are minor compared to others. God Bless


   
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