Gosh this has all made me feel more for people that go through hard things! I see how hard it really is to relate to what someone's going through if it's something I've never experienced. And it shows me how important it can be to just be listened to. Not fixed, but feeling heard can be so important. And when I share what I'm going through with someone, I can hope that they'll share it with someone else and more people will come to realize that not everyone has had an easy time with these vaccines like they may have had. If they won't believe that's real, what can they expect when they someday ave an invisible problem? I actually feel sorry for people that can't have sympathy. They're not hurting me (no one can do that without my permission) but they're hurting themselves by missing out on having compassion.
There are too many people out there who lack both empathy and compassion. They minimize, deny, and discount the things that happen to others as "no big deal". I've attempted to explain that I did have every intention of being vaccinated but changed my mind when I found out about the long-term vestibular side effects. I've even explained that my doctor has confirmed that the vaccine would likely cause me severe vestibular side effects due to my longstanding vestibular condition. For my trouble, I am lectured, berated, guilted, shamed, and namecalled. My concerns are dismissed with "most people don't have severe side effects" or am told that "a little dizziness is no big deal"--no big deal because it doesn't affect them. They deny that the the effects are real because it didn't happen to them or anyone they know. And then there was that horrible comment about how I should be willing to suffer "for the greater good". And then there are the scare stories about what happened to this person and that person who wasn't vaccinated, as if I didn't know about the possible complications. So on top of everything else, I am regarded as "stupid", which is very insulting. Oh, and I am accused to "discouraging others to get vaccinated." I don't tell anyone that they should or shouldn't--just want them to know some things that have been suppressed, and not just blindly accept what they've been told. These people will never "get it" until it happens to them or someone they care about. Karma has a way of catching up with such people.
@djmatera why are doctors still prescribing ivermectin when it failed miserably in Brazil and India where it was widely prescribed (not any more)
@isismadec I’m so sorry you had a bad reaction to the vaccine. I had (and posted about it end of April on this forum) what seems to have been an inflammatory response to the second Pfizer. I woke up with a sound in one ear, but because I did had a bad case of shingles a month earlier, doctors thought it could be a recurrence of that (shingles in my ear and on my head). I was diagnosed eventually with vestibular neuritis, and am in physical therapy for the resultant balance problem. To be fair, I had the same problem in February and March with shingles. No balance. The exercises have worked well for me and I’m almost back to good balance. I never had vertigo or balance problems before shingles, and now since Pfizer. But I would take the vaccine again. Covid is too awful. We have lost relatives and friends would could not get vaccinated in time, or were overseas without access. There is a risk to the vaccine. Side effects can be unpleasant. But long haul Covid is worse. And much much much more of a risk than the side effects, which are nearly always transient. Mine are nearly gone (but yes, it has taken many weeks).
don’t give up, look for real answers, change doctors, and don’t listen to advice suggesting ivermectin, or hydroxychloroquine and such. All you need to do is look at the death tolls in Brazil and India to know those things, which were prescribed to everyone, (not any more), just don’t work at all.
good luck, and feel better, and stick with the science. Not the quacks. You can do this.
Update: having gone to my GP, 3 types neurologists, had a CT scan and mri, ruled out other causes, a good neuro ENT finally sent me to a vestibular physical therapist for PT. Working wonders! My balance was terrible from the evident inflammation in my inner ear, either from the second Pfizer, or from having had shingles (on my head and in one ear) too close to vaccination. I reported it to VAERS. They have called me twice to ask my progress. I ho early told them I didn’t know if it is from the Pfizer shots or the shingles (all doctors say it could be either). But I really wish I had seen the PT in May! She explained that any virus, or any vaccine can cause temporary inflammation in the inner ear. She explained how vertigo works, how dizziness works, causes, etc, referred me to this site, and then gave me the practical tools to improve this. 4 weeks into the therapy, once weekly, I’m about 85%. Still having fatigue many days. But the stumbling around has ended. Vestibular rehabilitation really does work. Ivermectin and hydroxychloriquine and things of that type do not. Just find a good neuro ENT and get referred. Anyone who has had this dizziness problem will get help.
as to “the greater good”. I’d get vaccinated again, and will take boosters if necessary. I know the risks. They are minute compared to the risk of long Covid or death from Covid. People who have lost relatives and friends as I have know this is true. We are all in this Covid soup together. mRNA vaccines work. There are sometimes side effects, but truthfully, a close friend had identical side effects after a flu shot years ago. Balance problems for weeks. But he still got the moderna vaccine. No side effects for him. Those who have had terrible side effects from the vaccine, I empathize. But keep trying. Stick with real doctors. Don’t think it goes on forever. You can get well.
best to all here.
Dear Sassafras,
I have been out of town on this my 17 month anniversary of Pfizer two. I was hoping to finally get this behind me but not!!! I had a fall due to my continued side effect of Vertigo. We were coming back from a hike when I lifted my foot up on a bench to tie a loose shoestring and when I stood back up straight I was not stable and fell backwards. A total shock. I bonged my head and twisted my ankle.
Since having the second Pfizer vaccination 17 weeks ago I have suffered vertigo and it hasn’t gone away and is especially bad when I look down or up high like to a shelf. I lost my balance a week after the shot when walking up a flight of stairs but fortunately caught myself by grabbing the railing. I had one episode of vertigo six years ago and thought I was healed after PT. I have a telemedicine appointment with my ENT tomorrow and hope he has gained some insights about how he can help me and others through this nightmare since I last spoke with him three months ago when he was just hearing about the connection like the rest of us.
Today my vision is being affected. First time. It seems like I have different vision in both eyes. Very strange but it is hard to even text messages on this tiny keyboard. Anyone else with this anomaly? I’m trying not to think what’s next. I had four terrific Migraines last week that effected my vision after only having an average of one a month for several years. It’s very depressing and disheartening as I expect my varied symptoms to get better and not worse. My fear is that this “vaccine syndrome” as I have heard it called doesn’t become a “long haul” effect. I’m not a religious person in the strict sense of it but am spiritual and ask “please God help us all”. We don’t deserve it as all the masses doing the right thing don’t. Shame on so many for putting the us all and the world through this. 😔😔😔
@thenystagmus This makes me sick seeing so many suffering from the side effects of these vaccines. Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine were the cures for this virus from the beginning. The enormous level of risk people took taking the vaccines is something I will never understand for a virus that even with no treatment was barely worse than the flu for almost all cases.
My son got the J&J vaccine in early April without telling me. That night he had a high fever and was feeling horrible. I gave him Ivermectin because I thought he might have Covid. The next morning he said he felt great. This is not unusual for Ivermectin to have amazing results after a single dose. I have no way of knowing if the Ivermectin is what caused his improved state but there are studies now showing it does have a positive effect after receiving the vaccine.
Thanks for your post. I'd be interested in knowing how you ended up posting here, since you make no mention of vestibular issues. Many people feel really lousy for a few days after getting one of these vaccines, in fact we're warned to expect that.
It is so hard to know cause & effect for these things we do or don't do when we have issues following Covid vaccination. That's why studies with a control group given a placebo is so important. I've posted on this forum, asking if anyone has a link for any studies for Ivermectin use for post-Covid vaccine issues, but no one has posted any. If you have a link to share with a written study with control group (not just a video from a doctor that's started their own business) I'd be interested in reading it.
You are so right on and I see my husband after four months of my suffering beginning to think maybe it’s me. Talk about depressing when I know he’s wrong. Maybe mine is a bigger message or more complicated than others are getting. I sure hope not!!! 🙀
Hello, I had my first shot of Mederna and was fine, second shot was fine. A few days after the shot, I started getting nausea and dizzy. 3 weeks after my second shot, I was having a good day and was driving to my clients for a meeting. The way home on the road, I started getting sick and dizzy and passed out. I went over the embankment, cut down 3 smaller trees and rolled my SUV. I went to the ER and like everyone else on this post, nothing was wrong. It was the first time I ever passed out, and I am 55 years old. So I decided not to drive for 2 months. Well 2 months later, I was back to feeling ok, except the dizziness and slightly nausea. I was driving again on a open freeway and started feeling dizzy and I was scared and pulled over. The doctors say it must be anxiety and they put me on the meds. The meds, cause me to have more anxiety, so I switched them. In my mind, I keep feeling scared that these symptoms will get worse and never go away. It has been 4 months now, and the last 2 days I feel less dizzy so thats a good thing. I wish more people would post when they recovered. I am scheduled for a MRI because the side effects haven't gone away yet.
@isismadec I’m so sorry you had a bad reaction to the vaccine. I had (and posted about it end of April on this forum) what seems to have been an inflammatory response to the second Pfizer. I woke up with a sound in one ear, but because I did had a bad case of shingles a month earlier, doctors thought it could be a recurrence of that (shingles in my ear and on my head). I was diagnosed eventually with vestibular neuritis, and am in physical therapy for the resultant balance problem. To be fair, I had the same problem in February and March with shingles. No balance. The exercises have worked well for me and I’m almost back to good balance. I never had vertigo or balance problems before shingles, and now since Pfizer. But I would take the vaccine again. Covid is too awful. We have lost relatives and friends would could not get vaccinated in time, or were overseas without access. There is a risk to the vaccine. Side effects can be unpleasant. But long haul Covid is worse. And much much much more of a risk than the side effects, which are nearly always transient. Mine are nearly gone (but yes, it has taken many weeks).
don’t give up, look for real answers, change doctors, and don’t listen to advice suggesting ivermectin, or hydroxychloroquine and such. All you need to do is look at the death tolls in Brazil and India to know those things, which were prescribed to everyone, (not any more), just don’t work at all.
good luck, and feel better, and stick with the science. Not the quacks. You can do this.
You do you, but don't be telling me what to do. I never took the vaccine and will not. Due to a preexisting, longstanding vestibular condition, my doctor told me that it would be likely that I would suffer severe vestibular effects if I was to take the vaccine, that no matter what I do, it's a risk; that it is a matter of me deciding which risk is more acceptable. My body, my choice.
Do you really think I'm going to listen to the "science" and the so-called "experts" who have continually lied to us? Their only interest is getting as many people vaccinated as soon as possible. They couldn't care less about the collateral damage or the suffering it causes. All they care about is meeting their quota.
BACK OFF!
I am several pages behind in reading this forum today, so this post doesn't take into account any of the more recent posts on the last handful of pages here.
I'd just like to encourage us all, myself included, to be respectful of others, their experiences, viewpoints, and opinions. It's great to share these. It's not great to tell others what they should do, or shouldn't do, or shame others, or present information like it's the last word about anything to do with all this.
I hope we can share our experiences and our beliefs surrounding all this without thinking it's good to try to impose the weight of them on others. Trying to treat each other as we'd wish to be treated, and in light of how they'd wish to be treated is always good. Sharing IMHO, if it is truly a humble opinion, is healthy.
Well wishes for us all! 😏👍🙏
You are so right on and I see my husband after four months of my suffering beginning to think maybe it’s me. Talk about depressing when I know he’s wrong. Maybe mine is a bigger message or more complicated than others are getting. I sure hope not!!! 🙀
I'm so sorry your husband isn't taking this seriously even seeing what you are going through.
UPDATE: 7 days after second shot and have not had any side effects so far, aside from intense fatigue on the first day. Fingers crossed.
This time around I did not wait for symptoms to manifest and immediately started drinking 4 liters of water a day, 800 mg ibuprofen 500 tylenol and 1 claritin a day, plus my daily dose of Vit C and Vit B.
@sandram I got my second dose of pfizer on 29th June and 9th of July I started to feeling dizzy and with vértigos. After more than a week I am still dizzy.