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Posted by: @jacquelynsauriol
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Posted by: @sarap

@medee no:(. I’m at 11 months post now and it really hasn’t changed  I’ve tried acupuncture, anti inflammatory diets, turmeric, Bioflavanoids…the list goes on.  I can mostly ignore it during the day.  The nighttime is difficult. How about you?

I'm just 2.5 months in. I'm already losing my mind.

Have you not seen any improvement at all?

This link may help- did you get any other assistance? best

https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/resources/spike-protein-detox-guide/

No assistance apart from people here.

Doctors think I am crazy. Made a mistake of taking the tablets prescribed and my condition got way worse.

I am 2.5 months post my 1st and only jab. 


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@medee if I look back it’s possible that acupuncture helped a touch but honestly no real improvements.  It’s been the same high pitched tone for 11 months straight, 24/7. I do notice it’s louder when my blood pressure increases and when I eat high sodium foods. I mostly just focus now on my mental health as I have no reason to believe this tinnitus will resolve.  Sorry to be a Debbie Downer.  I’m going to talk to my GP about BP meds to help and he suggested I try an antidepressant, that some find relief with that. 

Have you tried Ginko? other things discussed here https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/resources/spike-protein-detox-guide/

None! There are no supplements or medical assistance for vaxx injuries here in India.

Basic supplements you will get. But most aren't available here. Moreover there aren't any naturopath or functional doctors here. If there are, hardly one or two here and there and they charge one time huge amount.


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@medee 

Nine months out and worse. So disheartening. Now daily migraines and tinnitus screaming in my ears plus pressure in ears makes talking feel like I’m underwater. Heart beat (pulse) flashing in my eyes nearly constant. Just pray I’m not slowing dieing from these horrible Pfizer side effects. So tired of this scary crap. Oh and had an anxiety attack from hell this week for the first time ever. REALLY??? When is a doc going to help my Neurologist and ENT won’t touch placing any blame on vaccine. Shame on them leaving us all to think it’s us when we’ve never had this awful stuff before. Migraines, once every few months, daily NEVER EVER…

🥺

I don't know what to say! I'll kill myself than living like this for the rest of my life.

My family has been supportive and asks me to give it time. But they also said if its unbearable, we won't say a word as they have seen me struggling everyday for my life.

Sorry if I missed your updates @medee, how are you doing now?

 

I cannot say I am better. I infact got 3 new issues this week. Strange!

I am 2.5 months into this but don't think I can tolerate this nonsense for long. I am losing focus at work. I have a family to take care of and the only earning member. 

I don't know if we all will get better. I have seen people getting better, some reported a relapse and some nver got better.

Some said they got better and never came back. Some have commented months ago, not sure if they got better.

Have been here since October and only know 1-3 people who said they got better. But weren't 100% out of it.


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@jacquelynsauriol I’m all for having open discussions, but I personally am getting a bit weary of all the linking to non reputable sources on this site (and even the occasional affiliate link - like really, we are trying to make money off each other here now?).

Joe Rogan is an ex mma fighter who was advocating ivermectin at one point (which has little to no evidence that it does anything, and has also resulted in about 100 overdose deaths). I want answers too, but I think we need science based solutions and not random doctors, media personalities, and naturopaths giving random advice. 

Agreed this was a point I was trying to make earlier. With all of the information out there the only thing I’m going to take as a medical breakthrough would have to come from a peer reviewed medical journal or equal source. This is why all of this is so confusing and hard to sift through. There are so many things out there. 

No money being made here; I have no affiliations with any health org. or any organization at all for that matter, and I do not appreciate the accusation. Just a layperson with a vaccine damaged family.

 


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@medee 

Nine months out and worse. So disheartening. Now daily migraines and tinnitus screaming in my ears plus pressure in ears makes talking feel like I’m underwater. Heart beat (pulse) flashing in my eyes nearly constant. Just pray I’m not slowing dieing from these horrible Pfizer side effects. So tired of this scary crap. Oh and had an anxiety attack from hell this week for the first time ever. REALLY??? When is a doc going to help my Neurologist and ENT won’t touch placing any blame on vaccine. Shame on them leaving us all to think it’s us when we’ve never had this awful stuff before. Migraines, once every few months, daily NEVER EVER…

🥺

I don't know what to say! I'll kill myself than living like this for the rest of my life.

My family has been supportive and asks me to give it time. But they also said if its unbearable, we won't say a word as they have seen me struggling everyday for my life.

Sorry if I missed your updates @medee, how are you doing now?

 

How about you? Are you out of this nightmare?

 


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Posted by: @pcmn

@sara90 

Hi. Good to hear things seem to be getting better, albeit as we know, it takes time and perseverance. Somehow intuitively I feel that what the naturopath said is true, meaning that the vaccine triggers some underlying condition or brings out our "weak spots".. Especially when talking about "boosters" , people seem to experience more adverse symptoms. Have heard many friends / close relatives share their experience with the booster, luckily thought they all have said that the symptoms didnt last long... best wishes

Hi, it does make sense, otherwise why would the majority of the population be okay after 3 shots? I was in a room on clubhouse the other day (it’s a social media audio app) and they were talking about Covid 19 and Vaccines. This doctor said that the vaccine should stay into the arm muscle, he said that if the vaccine goes into the bloodstream, that’s when it will cause problems. So I wonder if that’s what happened to us. Anyways, who knows at this point! 

I also had that theory. I wondered if it went into my bloodstream? 

There is a process during injection that was supposed to be followed, making sure the needle does not have blood in it (yours) right before injection. This process was not adhered to, but I feel the injections cause problems for some even when injected 'correctly'.  More on 'proper injections here, scroll down

https://www.healthline.com/health/intramuscular-injection#howtoc

I pray we don't get fooled again.

 

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Posted by: @pcmn

@sara90 

Hi. Good to hear things seem to be getting better, albeit as we know, it takes time and perseverance. Somehow intuitively I feel that what the naturopath said is true, meaning that the vaccine triggers some underlying condition or brings out our "weak spots".. Especially when talking about "boosters" , people seem to experience more adverse symptoms. Have heard many friends / close relatives share their experience with the booster, luckily thought they all have said that the symptoms didnt last long... best wishes

@pcmn how long did it take for them to get back to normal?

Were their symptoms same as ours? I've hardly seen one or two people here who said they recovered.

Also some who said they did, had a relapse. So not sure of anything anymore.


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Posted by: @pcmn

@sara90 

Hi. Good to hear things seem to be getting better, albeit as we know, it takes time and perseverance. Somehow intuitively I feel that what the naturopath said is true, meaning that the vaccine triggers some underlying condition or brings out our "weak spots".. Especially when talking about "boosters" , people seem to experience more adverse symptoms. Have heard many friends / close relatives share their experience with the booster, luckily thought they all have said that the symptoms didnt last long... best wishes

Hi, it does make sense, otherwise why would the majority of the population be okay after 3 shots? I was in a room on clubhouse the other day (it’s a social media audio app) and they were talking about Covid 19 and Vaccines. This doctor said that the vaccine should stay into the arm muscle, he said that if the vaccine goes into the bloodstream, that’s when it will cause problems. So I wonder if that’s what happened to us. Anyways, who knows at this point! 

I also had that theory. I wondered if it went into my bloodstream? 

There is a process during injection that was supposed to be followed, making sure the needle does not have blood in it (yours) right before injection. This process was not adhered to, but I feel the injections cause problems for some even when injected 'correctly'.  More on 'proper injections here, scroll down

https://www.healthline.com/health/intramuscular-injection#howtoc

I pray we don't get fooled again.

 

Irrespective of whatever has happened while injecting us, I hope we get back to normal.

Right now, all we have is speculations. No concrete answer. No medical assistance. No assurance that we can heal. People who say we can still don't know if we really will.

I just keep thinking about how we go back to what we once were. This is soul tearing!


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Can I ask a question to everyone on what is believed to be happening to us? I have heard many theories on here and am unsure which seems most realistic/likely. It may be different for everyone, or a combination of some of the following but I’m curious what everyone thinks. Theories I heard:

1. Jab triggered an underlying condition/virus that we had.

2. An over-activation of our immune system

3. Jab attacked our “weakest” part of our body

4. Anti-idiotype antibodies are still present and to blame for causing symptoms

5. The spike protein is causing excessive inflammation causing symptoms to manifest.

Thoughts?


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Posted by: @rainyday

@jkro It was me, a month or two ago! Ha. It makes sense that it might help to fight off the spike protein in the vaccine - thus relieving us of symptoms. Let us know if your provider prescribes it! 

May I know what could help fighting this demon!🥺


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Can I ask a question to everyone on what is believed to be happening to us? I have heard many theories on here and am unsure which seems most realistic/likely. It may be different for everyone, or a combination of some of the following but I’m curious what everyone thinks. Theories I heard:

1. Jab triggered an underlying condition/virus that we had.

2. An over-activation of our immune system

3. Jab attacked our “weakest” part of our body

4. Anti-idiotype antibodies are still present and to blame for causing symptoms

5. The spike protein is causing excessive inflammation causing symptoms to manifest.

Thoughts?

It could be all or a combination of it. 

What matters is how can we go back to what we once were and we don't have an answer to it.

I've read some people trying everything and nothing worked. And some didn't do anything at all apart from eating clean and they felt better. But have hardly seen someone feeling 100% like before without any relapses.

Only a miracle can save us!


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@medee if I look back it’s possible that acupuncture helped a touch but honestly no real improvements.  It’s been the same high pitched tone for 11 months straight, 24/7. I do notice it’s louder when my blood pressure increases and when I eat high sodium foods. I mostly just focus now on my mental health as I have no reason to believe this tinnitus will resolve.  Sorry to be a Debbie Downer.  I’m going to talk to my GP about BP meds to help and he suggested I try an antidepressant, that some find relief with that. 

Have you tried Ginko? other things discussed here https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/resources/spike-protein-detox-guide/

None! There are no supplements or medical assistance for vaxx injuries here in India.

Basic supplements you will get. But most aren't available here. Moreover there aren't any naturopath or functional doctors here. If there are, hardly one or two here and there and they charge one time huge amount.

@medee, I too have some tinnitus from time to time, but not too serious, from playing a brass instrument or so I thought. But your situation made me research more. It is a known adverse reaction from the mNRA injections. From my understanding of tinnitus, the problem seems to be (brain) inflammation..(even very minor) ...so anything you can do to decrease inflammation anywhere will likely help.  Maybe the salty foods trigger it because salty foods somehow increase inflammation.  Tumeric, Zanzibar and Rosemary are probably available to you and you could try to up your intake of them. See this paper, additional herbs are listed such as Devils claw and Indian Olibanum...hope this helps-

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/aps/2016/9130979/             you might search herbal tinnitus remedies premade...

Tumeric Rosemary tea anyone? best jackie


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Posted by: @sickofthis

Can I ask a question to everyone on what is believed to be happening to us? I have heard many theories on here and am unsure which seems most realistic/likely. It may be different for everyone, or a combination of some of the following but I’m curious what everyone thinks. Theories I heard:

1. Jab triggered an underlying condition/virus that we had.

2. An over-activation of our immune system

3. Jab attacked our “weakest” part of our body

4. Anti-idiotype antibodies are still present and to blame for causing symptoms

5. The spike protein is causing excessive inflammation causing symptoms to manifest.

Thoughts?

The jab damages our own innate immune systems, for some temporarily, for some more long term. I am hearing that the proteins are still present at 15 months.  The jab has only been available for that much time, so it could be more. To say it attacks the weak points sort of puts the blame back on the otherwise healthy victims, most of whom were OK before it. As far as I can see many of the reactions are common to poison ingestions/poisonings, due to the spike protein itself being toxic to our cells.  Harsh scene.

 


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@medee if I look back it’s possible that acupuncture helped a touch but honestly no real improvements.  It’s been the same high pitched tone for 11 months straight, 24/7. I do notice it’s louder when my blood pressure increases and when I eat high sodium foods. I mostly just focus now on my mental health as I have no reason to believe this tinnitus will resolve.  Sorry to be a Debbie Downer.  I’m going to talk to my GP about BP meds to help and he suggested I try an antidepressant, that some find relief with that. 

Have you tried Ginko? other things discussed here https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/resources/spike-protein-detox-guide/

None! There are no supplements or medical assistance for vaxx injuries here in India.

Basic supplements you will get. But most aren't available here. Moreover there aren't any naturopath or functional doctors here. If there are, hardly one or two here and there and they charge one time huge amount.

@medee, I too have some tinnitus from time to time, but not too serious, from playing a brass instrument or so I thought. But your situation made me research more. It is a known adverse reaction from the mNRA injections. From my understanding of tinnitus, the problem seems to be (brain) inflammation..(even very minor) ...so anything you can do to decrease inflammation anywhere will likely help.  Maybe the salty foods trigger it because salty foods somehow increase inflammation.  Tumeric, Zanzibar and Rosemary are probably available to you and you could try to up your intake of them. See this paper, additional herbs are listed such as Devils claw and Indian Olibanum...hope this helps-

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/aps/2016/9130979/             you might search herbal tinnitus remedies premade...

Tumeric Rosemary tea anyone? best jackie

@jacquelynsauriol thanks a ton for this! 

I was just looking for herbal teas myself as the one I had are almost over. My guess is the same as yours. Some brain issue and my nerves in my head constantly pain. Cannot do an MRI as I am concerned it will affect my ears knowing the fact that MRI scanners are usually loud. Also I'm claustrophobic.🥲

Few anti inflammatory teas can be as below:

- Ginger, Turmeric, Circumin, Tulsi, Mint, have heard oolong tea also works.

There are many other herbs. 

If it is inflammation, not sure how can we tackle that without medication. A lot of us have been trying anti inflammatory foods and few have tried supplements as well. 

I will try the herbal teas and share if anything helped. Hope you're recovering.


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Posted by: @sarap

@medee if I look back it’s possible that acupuncture helped a touch but honestly no real improvements.  It’s been the same high pitched tone for 11 months straight, 24/7. I do notice it’s louder when my blood pressure increases and when I eat high sodium foods. I mostly just focus now on my mental health as I have no reason to believe this tinnitus will resolve.  Sorry to be a Debbie Downer.  I’m going to talk to my GP about BP meds to help and he suggested I try an antidepressant, that some find relief with that. 

Have you tried Ginko? other things discussed here https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/resources/spike-protein-detox-guide/

None! There are no supplements or medical assistance for vaxx injuries here in India.

Basic supplements you will get. But most aren't available here. Moreover there aren't any naturopath or functional doctors here. If there are, hardly one or two here and there and they charge one time huge amount.

@medee, I too have some tinnitus from time to time, but not too serious, from playing a brass instrument or so I thought. But your situation made me research more. It is a known adverse reaction from the mNRA injections. From my understanding of tinnitus, the problem seems to be (brain) inflammation..(even very minor) ...so anything you can do to decrease inflammation anywhere will likely help.  Maybe the salty foods trigger it because salty foods somehow increase inflammation.  Tumeric, Zanzibar and Rosemary are probably available to you and you could try to up your intake of them. See this paper, additional herbs are listed such as Devils claw and Indian Olibanum...hope this helps-

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/aps/2016/9130979/             you might search herbal tinnitus remedies premade...

Tumeric Rosemary tea anyone? best jackie

@jacquelynsauriol thanks a ton for this! 

I was just looking for herbal teas myself as the one I had are almost over. My guess is the same as yours. Some brain issue and my nerves in my head constantly pain. Cannot do an MRI as I am concerned it will affect my ears knowing the fact that MRI scanners are usually loud. Also I'm claustrophobic.🥲

Few anti inflammatory teas can be as below:

- Ginger, Turmeric, Circumin, Tulsi, Mint, have heard oolong tea also works.

There are many other herbs. 

If it is inflammation, not sure how can we tackle that without medication. A lot of us have been trying anti inflammatory foods and few have tried supplements as well. 

I will try the herbal teas and share if anything helped. Hope you're recovering.

Also I missed on adding that I took the Adenovirus vaccine - AstraZeneca. This doesn't alter the DNA.

But as we all know whether mRna or Adenovirus vaccine, the side effects have been the same. 

No clue which one is better and which isn't as we all are in the same boat!😭🤦🏼‍♀️


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