@medee I can also add that tinnitus is a b*tch. it decreased max 35-40% over the first 3 months, but also increased during my relapses in later months. even worse, I also got frequent SBUTT which I never had before. it has been over 6 months now and I'm ~90% recovered except the tinnitus part which is reluctant to change. f#@% that
I'm just 32. Do I have to bear this for the rest of my life?😳 No wayyy!!!
What is SBUTT
What other symptoms did you have which have now subsided?
@medee I can also add that tinnitus is a b*tch. it decreased max 35-40% over the first 3 months, but also increased during my relapses in later months. even worse, I also got frequent SBUTT which I never had before. it has been over 6 months now and I'm ~90% recovered except the tinnitus part which is reluctant to change. f#@% that
I'm just 32. Do I have to bear this for the rest of my life?😳 No wayyy!!!
What is SBUTT
What other symptoms did you have which have now subsided?
Yeah, I'm too young for this too 🙁 You can check the progression of my main long-lasting side-effects here: https://postimg.cc/BtMM0cH0
but SBUTT is Sudden Brief Unilateral Tapering Tinnitus. basically the tinnitus gets significantly louder for a short period of time, in my case around 10 seconds and then drops down to the base level. it was couple of times a day for months and then I didn't have it for a week or two and now it's back again. it should be "harmless" but very scary every time it happens. since there are still changes happening in my hearing then not sure whether in the future it will become better or worse.
all the best to you.
Can I ask a question to everyone on what is believed to be happening to us? I have heard many theories on here and am unsure which seems most realistic/likely. It may be different for everyone, or a combination of some of the following but I’m curious what everyone thinks. Theories I heard:
1. Jab triggered an underlying condition/virus that we had.
2. An over-activation of our immune system
3. Jab attacked our “weakest” part of our body
4. Anti-idiotype antibodies are still present and to blame for causing symptoms
5. The spike protein is causing excessive inflammation causing symptoms to manifest.
Thoughts?
The jab damages our own innate immune systems, for some temporarily, for some more long term. I am hearing that the proteins are still present at 15 months. The jab has only been available for that much time, so it could be more. To say it attacks the weak points sort of puts the blame back on the otherwise healthy victims, most of whom were OK before it. As far as I can see many of the reactions are common to poison ingestions/poisonings, due to the spike protein itself being toxic to our cells. Harsh scene.
Do you have a credible source that says the proteins are still available 15 months later? I would love to read the article.
@jkro The root cause of the Mast Cell Degranulation needs to be addressed.
Which is usually inflammation, liver function, or some sort of toxicity in the body. Until the underlying cause is addressed, stabilizing mast cells may be an avenue of reduction to the spiraling condition because the mast cell degranulation may also worsen the overall inflammatory response itself.
I'd start with reduction of inflammation, increasing the detox and restorative functions of the body, combined with a stabilization of mast cells. I predict most people with vaccine side effects will benefit from a combined approach in this manner until they can fully detox the vaccine/spike proteins out of their bodies over a period of months.
Some experts are working with a combination of Premier Research Colostrum-IgG Powder and Premier Research Nucleo Immune, Beta-Glucan and Nucleotide Immune Formula in combination to thwart and reverse vaccine damage. I don't have any data yet on the success other than allegedly results are promising. Colustrum, some take at least two tablespoons in water, 2 or 3x per day. Mix it with lemon or anything that may improve the taste, although some people enjoy it as it is. Nucleotides? Half a dozen every few hours and then measure improvements in vaccine injury/side effects after a few days and adjust dosages.
Others report good effect from probiotics, proteolytic enzymes and enzymes in general in combination with the above. I can't attest to those personally.
(Disclarimer: Only your physician is able to recommend any treatments of protocols and they should be consulted before attempting any treatment for any condition.)
Regarding reducing inflammation, wouldn’t an option be using steroids? Followed or in conjunction with a mast cell stabilizer? I just picked up my steroid dose pack and am not sure if/when to use it.
@sickofthis yes, there is no supplement or diet that is going to reduce inflammation more than prednisone, at least acutely. I couldn’t take my prednisone fast enough.
@medee I can also add that tinnitus is a b*tch. it decreased max 35-40% over the first 3 months, but also increased during my relapses in later months. even worse, I also got frequent SBUTT which I never had before. it has been over 6 months now and I'm ~90% recovered except the tinnitus part which is reluctant to change. f#@% that
I'm just 32. Do I have to bear this for the rest of my life?😳 No wayyy!!!
What is SBUTT
What other symptoms did you have which have now subsided?
Yeah, I'm too young for this too 🙁 You can check the progression of my main long-lasting side-effects here: https://postimg.cc/BtMM0cH0
but SBUTT is Sudden Brief Unilateral Tapering Tinnitus. basically the tinnitus gets significantly louder for a short period of time, in my case around 10 seconds and then drops down to the base level. it was couple of times a day for months and then I didn't have it for a week or two and now it's back again. it should be "harmless" but very scary every time it happens. since there are still changes happening in my hearing then not sure whether in the future it will become better or worse.
all the best to you.
The link you shared doesn't show anything clearly.
What other symptoms you have currently apart from tinnitus?
I have a sister who is a registered nurse at a hospital in Boston, MA. She contracted Covid-19 in March of 2020. During this time she lost her sense of taste and smell and developed tinnitus. It took a full year for her sense of smell and taste to come back, and it took a good 6 months for the tinnitus to go away. She said at times the tinnitus was the worst...
She did go on and got both doses of the vaccine and none of the symptoms she had from Covid-19 returned.
She also told me if my tinnitus is from the vaccine (which it DEFINITELY IS!) then it is only temporary...
Has the tinnitus subsided for you?
How are you feeling these days? Have you gotten 100% back to your normal life?
Can I ask a question to everyone on what is believed to be happening to us? I have heard many theories on here and am unsure which seems most realistic/likely. It may be different for everyone, or a combination of some of the following but I’m curious what everyone thinks. Theories I heard:
1. Jab triggered an underlying condition/virus that we had.
2. An over-activation of our immune system
3. Jab attacked our “weakest” part of our body
4. Anti-idiotype antibodies are still present and to blame for causing symptoms
5. The spike protein is causing excessive inflammation causing symptoms to manifest.
Thoughts?
I only just read about anti-idiotype antibodies last night - it's an interesting theory and I hope it's investigated further. Here's an article for anyone that's interested:
I am happy to know that some researchers are looking into potential causes of both long COVID and severe vaccine side effects; recognizing that perhaps they might have something in common.
Based on your comment, I think you know about as much as anyone here. My neurologist diagnosed me with a severe adverse neurological reaction following the first dose of a Pfizer vaccine. If the doctor was willing to admit I had a side effect then I believe he would admit a cause if he knew of one. Unfortunately, it's still too soon to know what's going on for certain. Although, the immune system still perplexes experts to some degree so we might never know. I think all of those theories are plausible.
SEE: Link between COVID-19 vaccination, tinnitus ‘worth looking into’
At: https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20210603/qa-link-between-covid19-vaccination-tinnitus-worth-looking-intoWithin a few hours of receiving his second COVID-19 vaccine dose in February, Gregory A. Poland, MD, a vaccinologist and director of the vaccine research group at the Mayo Clinic, knew something was not right.
Within about 90 minutes after receiving his second dose of an mRNA vaccine, he experienced the sudden and severe onset of tinnitus. He soon discovered that he had tinnitus, becoming one of at least 2,250 people who reported developing the condition following COVID-19 vaccination. The actual number may be higher, and a critical question is whether it is coincidence or causal, according to Poland.
He said it is time for federal health agencies to examine the COVID-19 vaccine-tinnitus link, although he acknowledged that the FDA and CDC are “overwhelmed with the amount of data” they are receiving regarding vaccination.
Quote: Dr. Poland: My second hunch is that over time, these off-target inflammatory responses will either disappear completely or considerably diminish over time, which raises a really important question: Do I get a third COVID-19 vaccine dose if those become recommended?
Ginger! I am about to shout!
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST INFORMATION I HAVE SEEN REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH WHAT I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH FOR 3+ MONTHS!!
If you've never followed a link yet, I highly recommend doing so with this one! I plan to print this and share it around.
Ginger - I dub you worthy of the very first Golden Ear award for sleuthing out this resource! Thank you immensely! 🤩
@gingerj has your tinnitus cured now?
Have all your symptoms vanished?
@jkro I am thinking the same thing. My sister is an RN and she said the neurologist need to diagnos everyone for billing purposes. Possible vaccine side effect isnt a diagnosis. Thanks for the kind words. These past 8 weeks have been rough but at least we strongly believe it will get better. Hopefully sooner then later
Along with the multitude of side effects noted by many hundred people, I am asking today, how many find their symptoms come and go presenting with some news ones. Im currently struggling with eye, ear and head pressure leading to headaches. Curious if anyone else has had this eye pressure also? The symptoms seem to jump around.
@sickofthis yes, there is no supplement or diet that is going to reduce inflammation more than prednisone, at least acutely. I couldn’t take my prednisone fast enough.
Thanks for your reply. Did you notice a difference after you took it? Did the symptoms it reduced stay away after your steroid? I tried it once before and it helped my symptoms for about a week then the symptoms came back.
@sickofthis the thing with prednisone is the sooner you take it the more likely it is to be effective for tinnitus and hearing loss. Unfortunately I wasn’t able to get into my physician until 11 days post. The nurse practitioner I saw initially wouldn’t acknowledge the link or prescribe prednisone. It did not have a positive effect for me. Although some people who’ve taken it for sooner or for longer periods are seeing results.
Along with the multitude of side effects noted by many hundred people, I am asking today, how many find their symptoms come and go presenting with some news ones. Im currently struggling with eye, ear and head pressure leading to headaches. Curious if anyone else has had this eye pressure also? The symptoms seem to jump around.
Yes...each time I have a flare up a new symptom also pops up. Eye pressure started 6-8 weeks out from first Pfizer.